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==Overview==
 
==Overview==
I think I have made a mistake, with the notation:
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I think I have made a mistake with the notation:
* {{M|1=\bigcup_{n=1}^\infty}}, if we have {{M|1=\bigcup_{n=1}^\infty A_n}} where {{MSeq|A_n}} is a [[sequence]] all is well, from the expression we can tell it means the union of all terms in the sequence. But take:
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* Suppose we write {{M|1=\bigcup_{n=1}^\infty}}, if we have {{M|1=\bigcup_{n=1}^\infty A_n}} for a [[sequence]] {{MSeq|A_n}} all is well, from the expression we can tell it means the union of all terms in the sequence.  
** {{MM|1=\bigcup_{n=1}^\infty X^n}}, where {{M|X^n}} is to be interpreted as all {{M|n}}-[[tuple|tuples]] of elements of {{M|X}}
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However take:
*** Does this mean all ''finite'' tuples, or does it include {{M|X^\mathbb{N} }}?
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* {{MM|1=\bigcup_{n=1}^\infty X^n}}, where {{M|X^n}} is to be interpreted as all {{M|n}}-[[tuple|tuples]] of elements of {{M|X}}
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** Does this mean all ''finite'' tuples, or does it include {{M|X^\mathbb{N} }}?
 
Typically when we write {{M|\bigcup_a^b}} we mean starting at {{M|a}} and proceeding towards {{M|b}} in the obvious way, and including {{M|b}}, for example:
 
Typically when we write {{M|\bigcup_a^b}} we mean starting at {{M|a}} and proceeding towards {{M|b}} in the obvious way, and including {{M|b}}, for example:
 
* {{M|1=\bigcup_{i=1}^5 A_i}} is {{M|A_1\cup A_2\cup A_3\cup A_4\cup A_5}}, so when we encounter an {{M|\infty}} (which in this case... if anything means [[aleph 0|{{M|\aleph_0}}]]) we should attempt to include it!
 
* {{M|1=\bigcup_{i=1}^5 A_i}} is {{M|A_1\cup A_2\cup A_3\cup A_4\cup A_5}}, so when we encounter an {{M|\infty}} (which in this case... if anything means [[aleph 0|{{M|\aleph_0}}]]) we should attempt to include it!

Latest revision as of 15:23, 21 October 2016

Overview

I think I have made a mistake with the notation:

  • Suppose we write n=1, if we have n=1An for a sequence (An)n=1 all is well, from the expression we can tell it means the union of all terms in the sequence.

However take:

  • n=1Xn, where Xn is to be interpreted as all n-tuples of elements of X
    • Does this mean all finite tuples, or does it include XN?

Typically when we write ba we mean starting at a and proceeding towards b in the obvious way, and including b, for example:

  • 5i=1Ai is A1A2A3A4A5, so when we encounter an (which in this case... if anything means 0) we should attempt to include it!

Possible solution

The solution currently being considered is:

  • nNAn, this has the advantage of:
    • [xnNAn][nN(xAn)] (by definition of union), this is exactly what we mean when we write this.

Counterpoints

  1. What about n=1an? Should we write nNan instead? This also has 5i=1ai being the sum from a1 to a5 inclusive.
    • This is sidestepped by saying:
      • n=1an is an expression/notation/syntatic sugar for writing lim
    • Of course also we cannot sum infinite terms, nor is there an a_\infty term in a sequence. We can only sum finitely many times (in a ring, or group)


This page is some notes on a solution to this problem, and to mention "irregularities" that may result.

Practical problems

  1. A lot of pages use \bigcup_{n=1}^\infty