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==Overview== | ==Overview== | ||
− | I think I have made a mistake | + | I think I have made a mistake with the notation: |
− | * {{M|1=\bigcup_{n=1}^\infty}}, if we have {{M|1=\bigcup_{n=1}^\infty A_n}} | + | * Suppose we write {{M|1=\bigcup_{n=1}^\infty}}, if we have {{M|1=\bigcup_{n=1}^\infty A_n}} for a [[sequence]] {{MSeq|A_n}} all is well, from the expression we can tell it means the union of all terms in the sequence. |
− | + | However take: | |
− | + | * {{MM|1=\bigcup_{n=1}^\infty X^n}}, where {{M|X^n}} is to be interpreted as all {{M|n}}-[[tuple|tuples]] of elements of {{M|X}} | |
+ | ** Does this mean all ''finite'' tuples, or does it include {{M|X^\mathbb{N} }}? | ||
Typically when we write {{M|\bigcup_a^b}} we mean starting at {{M|a}} and proceeding towards {{M|b}} in the obvious way, and including {{M|b}}, for example: | Typically when we write {{M|\bigcup_a^b}} we mean starting at {{M|a}} and proceeding towards {{M|b}} in the obvious way, and including {{M|b}}, for example: | ||
* {{M|1=\bigcup_{i=1}^5 A_i}} is {{M|A_1\cup A_2\cup A_3\cup A_4\cup A_5}}, so when we encounter an {{M|\infty}} (which in this case... if anything means [[aleph 0|{{M|\aleph_0}}]]) we should attempt to include it! | * {{M|1=\bigcup_{i=1}^5 A_i}} is {{M|A_1\cup A_2\cup A_3\cup A_4\cup A_5}}, so when we encounter an {{M|\infty}} (which in this case... if anything means [[aleph 0|{{M|\aleph_0}}]]) we should attempt to include it! |
Latest revision as of 15:23, 21 October 2016
Overview
I think I have made a mistake with the notation:
- Suppose we write ⋃∞n=1, if we have ⋃∞n=1An for a sequence (An)∞n=1 all is well, from the expression we can tell it means the union of all terms in the sequence.
However take:
- ∞⋃n=1Xn, where Xn is to be interpreted as all n-tuples of elements of X
- Does this mean all finite tuples, or does it include XN?
Typically when we write ⋃ba we mean starting at a and proceeding towards b in the obvious way, and including b, for example:
- ⋃5i=1Ai is A1∪A2∪A3∪A4∪A5, so when we encounter an ∞ (which in this case... if anything means ℵ0) we should attempt to include it!
Possible solution
The solution currently being considered is:
- ⋃n∈NAn, this has the advantage of:
- [x∈⋃n∈NAn]⟺[∃n∈N(x∈An)] (by definition of union), this is exactly what we mean when we write this.
Counterpoints
- What about ∑∞n=1an? Should we write ∑n∈Nan instead? This also has ∑5i=1ai being the sum from a1 to a5 inclusive.
- This is sidestepped by saying:
- ∞∑n=1an is an expression/notation/syntatic sugar for writing lim
- Of course also we cannot sum infinite terms, nor is there an a_\infty term in a sequence. We can only sum finitely many times (in a ring, or group)
- This is sidestepped by saying:
This page is some notes on a solution to this problem, and to mention "irregularities" that may result.
Practical problems
- A lot of pages use \bigcup_{n=1}^\infty