Notes:Products and sums of groups
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[hide]Recall
Given a pair of groups, (A,∗A) and (B,∗B) in the category of groups we define the following:
Product
- A wedge: such that for each wedgethere exists a unique arrow such thatcommutes.
It is obvious that
Coproduct (sum)
- A wedge: such that for each wedgethere exists a unique arrow such thatcommutes.
"Proof" that (A×B,∗A×B) is the product and coproduct of A and B (FALSE)
Here we define the operation: ∗A×B:(A×B)×(A×B)→A×B as follows:
- ∗A×B:((a,b),(a′,b′))↦(aa′,bb′)
(This means that I am claiming S=A×B with this operation)
Product (TRUE)
Let (X,⋅) be a group and let fA:X→A and fB:X→B be group homomorphisms be given.
- We must find a unique m:X→A×B (also a group homomorphism) such that:
- pA∘m=fA and
- pB∘m=fB
I claim that A×B is a group with this operation, and, pA and pB are defined as follows (and are group homomorphisms):
- pA:A×B→A by pA:(a,b)↦a and
- pB:A×B→B by pB:(a,b)↦b
In this event, A×B is the categorical product of A and B.
- Clearly we can define m:X→A×B by m:x↦(fA(x),fB(x))
Then pA(m(x))=pA((fA(x),fB(x))=fA(x) as required.
Coproduct (FALSE)
Let (X,⋅) be a group and let fA:A→X and fB:B→X be group homomorphisms be given.
- We must find a unique m:A×B→X (also a group homomorphism) such that:
- m∘iA=fA and
- m∘iB=fB
I claim that A×B is a group with this operation, and, iA and iB are defined as follows (and are group homomorphisms):
- iA:A→A×B by iA:a↦(a,0) and
- iB:B→A×B by iB:b↦(0,b)
In this event A×B is the categorical coproduct of A and B
- After a little thought I've come up with:
- m:A×B→X given by m:(a,b)↦fA(a)⋅fB(b) HOWEVER is is clear that
- m:(a,b)↦fB(b)⋅fA(a) would also work just as well; and is distinct from the m above unless X is an Abelian group.
- As m(iA(a))=m((a,0))=fA(a)⋅fB(0)=fA(a)⋅eB=fA(a) as required, or:
- m(iA(a))=m((a,0))=fB(0)⋅fA(a)=eB⋅fA(a)=fA(a) depending on how you define m, similarly for fB
- As m(iA(a))=m((a,0))=fA(a)⋅fB(0)=fA(a)⋅eB=fA(a) as required, or:
- m:(a,b)↦fB(b)⋅fA(a) would also work just as well; and is distinct from the m above unless X is an Abelian group.
- m:A×B→X given by m:(a,b)↦fA(a)⋅fB(b) HOWEVER is is clear that
- Thus we see that (unless the choice of X is always an Abelian group) that there is no unique mediating arrow, and thus A×B cannot be the coproduct of A and B.