Notes:Products and sums of groups

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Recall

Given a pair of groups, (A,A) and (B,B) in the category of groups we define the following:

Product

  • A wedge:
    such that for each wedge
    there exists a unique arrow such that
    commutes.

It is obvious that

Coproduct (sum)

  • A wedge:
    such that for each wedge
    there exists a unique arrow such that
    commutes.

"Proof" that (A×B,A×B) is the product and coproduct of A and B (FALSE)

Here we define the operation: A×B:(A×B)×(A×B)A×B as follows:

  • A×B:((a,b),(a,b))(aa,bb)

(This means that I am claiming S=A×B with this operation)

Product (TRUE)

Let (X,) be a group and let fA:XA and fB:XB be group homomorphisms be given.

  • We must find a unique m:XA×B (also a group homomorphism) such that:
    1. pAm=fA and
    2. pBm=fB

I claim that A×B is a group with this operation, and, pA and pB are defined as follows (and are group homomorphisms):

  • pA:A×BA by pA:(a,b)a and
  • pB:A×BB by pB:(a,b)b

In this event, A×B is the categorical product of A and B.

  • Clearly we can define m:XA×B by m:x(fA(x),fB(x))

Then pA(m(x))=pA((fA(x),fB(x))=fA(x) as required.

Coproduct (FALSE)

Let (X,) be a group and let fA:AX and fB:BX be group homomorphisms be given.

  • We must find a unique m:A×BX (also a group homomorphism) such that:
    1. miA=fA and
    2. miB=fB

I claim that A×B is a group with this operation, and, iA and iB are defined as follows (and are group homomorphisms):

  • iA:AA×B by iA:a(a,0) and
  • iB:BA×B by iB:b(0,b)

In this event A×B is the categorical coproduct of A and B

  • After a little thought I've come up with:
    • m:A×BX given by m:(a,b)fA(a)fB(b) HOWEVER is is clear that
      • m:(a,b)fB(b)fA(a) would also work just as well; and is distinct from the m above unless X is an Abelian group.
        • As m(iA(a))=m((a,0))=fA(a)fB(0)=fA(a)eB=fA(a) as required, or:
          • m(iA(a))=m((a,0))=fB(0)fA(a)=eBfA(a)=fA(a) depending on how you define m, similarly for fB
  • Thus we see that (unless the choice of X is always an Abelian group) that there is no unique mediating arrow, and thus A×B cannot be the coproduct of A and B.

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