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− | <small>But strangely, appears to call a set "closed" whenever it is not open!</small> | + | #*<small>But strangely, appears to call a set "closed" whenever it is not open!</small> |
+ | #*: I noticed that, but I also noticed it making a distinction between "base" and "basis" and showing they're equal. I've seen this distinction before, and they seem to line up with {{M|\D1}} and {{M|\D3}} above, it's a starting point. I've emailed the author anyway. [[User:Alec|Alec]] ([[User talk:Alec|talk]]) 16:56, 27 June 2016 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 16:56, 27 June 2016
Contents
Problem
There's "basis for a topology" and "basis that generates a topology", the two are very similar constructs, and it is important to be able to move between them. This page is just to write down some concrete notes that prove any claims I may want to make.
Definitions
Basis for a topology
Given a topological space, [ilmath](X,\mathcal{J})[/ilmath] a basis for the space is a collection, [ilmath]\mathcal{B} [/ilmath] of subsets of [ilmath]X[/ilmath] such that:
- [ilmath]\forall B\in\mathcal{B}[B\in\mathcal{J}][/ilmath] - the elements of [ilmath]\mathcal{B} [/ilmath] are open in [ilmath]X[/ilmath].
- [ilmath]\forall U\in\mathcal{J}\ \exists\{B_\alpha\}_{\alpha\in I}\subseteq\mathcal{B}[\bigcup_{\alpha\in I}B_\alpha=U][/ilmath]
Basis criterion
If we have a basis, [ilmath]\mathcal{B} [/ilmath] for a topological space [ilmath](X,\mathcal{ J })[/ilmath] then we can talk about open sets differently:
- A subset of [ilmath]X[/ilmath], [ilmath]U\in\mathcal{P}(X)[/ilmath], is open in [ilmath]X[/ilmath] if and only if [ilmath]\forall p\in U\exists B\in\mathcal{B}[p\in B\subseteq U][/ilmath]
Topology generated by a basis
Given a set, [ilmath]X[/ilmath] and a collection of subsets of [ilmath]X[/ilmath], [ilmath]\mathcal{B}\in\mathcal{P}(\mathcal{P}(X))[/ilmath] we call [ilmath]\mathcal{B} [/ilmath] a topological basis[Note 1] or something!? if it satisfies:
- [ilmath]\forall x\in X\exists B\in\mathcal{B}[x\in B][/ilmath][Note 2] and
- [ilmath]\forall B_1,B_2\in\mathcal{B}\ \forall x\in B_1\cap B_2\ \exists B_3\in\mathcal{B}[x\in B_3\subseteq B_1\cap B_2][/ilmath][Note 3]
Then [ilmath]\mathcal{B} [/ilmath] generates a unique topology on [ilmath]X[/ilmath]. This topology has [ilmath]\mathcal{B} [/ilmath] as a basis.
Alec's interpretation
We can use the Basis Criterion above to define the open sets:
If we have a basis, [ilmath]\mathcal{B} [/ilmath] for a topological space [ilmath](X,\mathcal{ J })[/ilmath] then we can talk about open sets differently:
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Distilling the page
Let us make the following "artificial" definitions:[ilmath]\def\D#1{\mathrm{D} #1}[/ilmath]
- [ilmath]\mathrm{D}1[/ilmath] - Definition 1 - given a topological space [ilmath](X,\mathcal{ J })[/ilmath] we can define a basis, [ilmath]\mathcal{B} [/ilmath] as follows:
- [ilmath]\forall B\in\mathcal{B}[B\in\mathcal{J}][/ilmath] - the elements of [ilmath]\mathcal{B} [/ilmath] are open in [ilmath]X[/ilmath].
- [ilmath]\forall U\in\mathcal{J}\ \exists\{B_\alpha\}_{\alpha\in I}\subseteq\mathcal{B}[\bigcup_{\alpha\in I}B_\alpha=U][/ilmath]
- [ilmath]\mathrm{D}2[/ilmath] - Definition 2 - so called "Basis Criterion"
- Given a collection of subsets of a set, [ilmath]\mathcal{B}\in\mathcal{P}(\mathcal{P}(X))[/ilmath], a subset, [ilmath]U[/ilmath], of the set [ilmath]X[/ilmath] is "[ilmath]\mathrm{D}2[/ilmath]" if and only if
- [ilmath]\forall p\in U\exists B\in\mathcal{B}[p\in B\subseteq U][/ilmath]
- Given a collection of subsets of a set, [ilmath]\mathcal{B}\in\mathcal{P}(\mathcal{P}(X))[/ilmath], a subset, [ilmath]U[/ilmath], of the set [ilmath]X[/ilmath] is "[ilmath]\mathrm{D}2[/ilmath]" if and only if
- [ilmath]\mathrm{D}3[/ilmath] - Definition 3 - a system of subsets of a set [ilmath]X[/ilmath], [ilmath]\mathcal{D} [/ilmath] is called [ilmath]\mathrm{D}3[/ilmath] if:
- [ilmath]\forall x\in X\exists B\in\mathcal{B}[x\in B][/ilmath][Note 4] and
- [ilmath]\forall B_1,B_2\in\mathcal{B}\ \forall x\in B_1\cap B_2\ \exists B_3\in\mathcal{B}[x\in B_3\subseteq B_1\cap B_2][/ilmath]
Then we can start saying "[ilmath]\D{1}\implies \D2[/ilmath] defines a topology" and such.
Workings
There are a few ways to go.
John M. Lee's path
- Let [ilmath](X,\mathcal{ J })[/ilmath] be a topological space and [ilmath]\mathcal{B} [/ilmath] as [ilmath]\D1[/ilmath] collection of sets, then:
- [ilmath]U\in\mathcal{J} [/ilmath] if and only if [ilmath]U[/ilmath] is [ilmath]\D2[/ilmath]
- Suppose [ilmath]\mathcal{B}'[/ilmath] is [ilmath]\D3[/ilmath] - then there is a unique topology on [ilmath]X[/ilmath] for which [ilmath]\mathcal{B}'[/ilmath] is [ilmath]\D1[/ilmath] on.
- He sidesteps the proof of uniqueness.
Alec's first attempt
- Suppose [ilmath]\mathcal{B} [/ilmath] is [ilmath]\D3[/ilmath], then the collection of all [ilmath]\D2[/ilmath] subsets is a topology on [ilmath]X[/ilmath], call this topology [ilmath]\mathcal{K} [/ilmath]
- [ilmath]\mathcal{B} [/ilmath] is [ilmath]\D1[/ilmath] (wrt: [ilmath](X,\mathcal{ K })[/ilmath])
- Corollary: A [ilmath]\D3[/ilmath] collection of subsets is a basis for the topology it generates
- Suppose [ilmath]\mathcal{B}'[/ilmath] is [ilmath]\D1[/ilmath] (wrt: [ilmath](X,\mathcal{ J })[/ilmath]), then it is [ilmath]\D3[/ilmath].
- The topology generated by [ilmath]\mathcal{B}'[/ilmath] is the same as [ilmath]\mathcal{J} [/ilmath].
These are all "easy", however to complete this we need:
- There is no other topology for which [ilmath]\mathcal{B}'[/ilmath] is a basis OR
- There is no other topology which can be generated by [ilmath]\mathcal{B} [/ilmath]
That is we still do not know uniqueness.
Notes
- ↑ Not what Lee actually says, check this!
- ↑ Lee actually says:
- [ilmath]\bigcup_{B\in\mathcal{B} }B=X[/ilmath]
- ↑ There are many abuses of notation here. Make sure they're clear and understood!
- ↑ Dubious, actually require: [ilmath]\bigcup_{B\in\mathcal{B} }B=X[/ilmath]
Links
- http://www.cmi.ac.in/~anirbit/topology.pdf - appears to deal with exactly my problem.
- But strangely, appears to call a set "closed" whenever it is not open!
- I noticed that, but I also noticed it making a distinction between "base" and "basis" and showing they're equal. I've seen this distinction before, and they seem to line up with [ilmath]\D1[/ilmath] and [ilmath]\D3[/ilmath] above, it's a starting point. I've emailed the author anyway. Alec (talk) 16:56, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
- But strangely, appears to call a set "closed" whenever it is not open!